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| Vincent |
Posted: Feb 20 2010, 04:37 PM
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![]() Bigger Than Jesus ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Bohab Posts: 3551 Member No.: 787 Joined: 11-January 07 |
I have all those I think. |
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| ToadSucker19 |
Posted: Feb 20 2010, 05:27 PM
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![]() Asshole ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Bohab Posts: 481 Member No.: 3068 Joined: 16-May 08 |
Aren't you out of the states? Shipping overseas is expensive as all hell! I got a PM from scumalfs, and he had all that I wanted and a couple more. I'm still waiting from another reply from him, though. |
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| Vincent |
Posted: Feb 21 2010, 07:43 AM
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![]() Bigger Than Jesus ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Bohab Posts: 3551 Member No.: 787 Joined: 11-January 07 |
Padded envelope is like 5-7 bucks.
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| NJZombie |
Posted: Jul 31 2010, 02:46 AM
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Virgin ![]() Group: Bohab Posts: 2 Member No.: 3736 Joined: 31-July 10 |
Hello all. I guess I'm kind of late to the party but I'm actually the guy who created and posted those DVD rips of TVD and Next Mutation on Demonoid a while back. I also managed to scan and post the remaining issues of Mind Control Monthly that huntermc hadn't already done. So for the most part, I believe you're familiar with some of my work. I've been reading the posts in this thread and for the most part, I think I have all of the stuff that's been converted from VHS to DVD or at least files, with the exception of the RAWGWAR movie. Has that one been done and is it available from somebody on here? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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| Vincent |
Posted: Jul 31 2010, 08:23 AM
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![]() Bigger Than Jesus ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Bohab Posts: 3551 Member No.: 787 Joined: 11-January 07 |
Not that I know of, no. Someone did post bootlegs of the Toilet Earth tour and a wrestling tour from the year before, which is cooler.
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| ToadSucker19 |
Posted: Jul 31 2010, 04:39 PM
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Yeah. I posted those. I have RAWGWAR, as well. I don't deal over the internet, usually, but I'll burn shows for blanks and postage money.
My entire GWAR collection is at http://tapetrader.com/ScUmFoX |
| huntermc |
Posted: Aug 1 2010, 01:29 AM
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I'm ripping Rawgwar right now... quality isn't great, but isn't as bad as I remember it to be. Lots of cool stuff from 88/89 in it - Cardinal Syn theme 89 (which became A Short History of the End of the World), the Fudgies, Log Suckoff, and additional footage from the show where the Black & Huge video was shot.
Here's my rundown I wrote up several years ago: Title: RAWGWAR Date: 1989 Time: 110m 1. Black & Huge 2. World O Filth (partial) 3. Slutman City 4. Bone Meal/Ollie North 5. Dead Dog 6. Americanized 7. Years Without Light 8. As Pure As The Arctic Snow 9. Techno Song 10. Ham On The Bone 11. World O Filth 12. Captain Crunch 13. Bone Meal/Ollie North 14. Bone Meal/Ollie North 15. Death Pod 16. Dead Dog 17. Time For Death 18. Horror Of Yg 19. Slaughterama (sung over Techno Song) 20. Sexecutioner 21. Techno Song 22. U Ain't Shit 23. Vlad The Impaler 24. Cardinal Syn Theme 25. U Aint' Shit 26. GWAR Theme 27. Captain Crunch 28. Cool Place To Park This the original RAWGWAR video. This is not to be confused with The Next Mutation, which was originally listed in the Slave Pit catalogs as "RAWGWAR: The Next Mutation," probably implying that Next Mutation was RAWGWAR part two. RAWGWAR is a collection of live clips from between 1987 and 1988, judging from the crude state of the costumes. Some of the clips have Oderus in the costume state like he is seen in on the cover of Hell-o!, with the horned headpiece and scraggly hair but no face mask. Other clips have the crude original face mask like seen in the 4/11/88 Trenton NJ and Detroit 7/12/88 bootlegs. Still others have the next version of the mask as seen in the Next Mutation video and live tapes from 1989 or so. Similarly, Sexecutioner is seen in various stages of evolution, including one of the earliest versions where he had a penis hanging on the front of this shorts. Some of the footage from one show that is in some clips was edited together together to make the Black & Huge video that can be seen in Next Mutation and TVD. Unfortunately most of the quality is poor. Most of the club scenes are poorly lit and like Next Mutation, it's obvious that the band assembled this on a couple of VCRs and it shows more generational loss than your average bootleg, making the picture blurry in some clips. The audio on most tracks is pretty poor, too. The video runs 110 minutes, and despite the poor quality, it is still facsinating because it shows some enemies and props that were hardly ever used anywhere else, and it also features a couple of musical oddities: an early version of Years Without Light, an early version of Slaughterama sung over the Techno Song music, and the otherwise unreleased Cardinal Syn Theme which is completely different from Surf Of Syn. The video opens with the Slave Pit logo and address, then we see the band entering a club from the street. Sleazy introduces what appears to be a poetry reading in an art gallery with famous works of art on its paper walls. Sleazy announces that there will be a short play from the works of Anton Reemcob, and Scott Krahl and Mike Bonner come out in their slave outfits. Krahl dances around with a mangled skeleton while Bonner plays a harp. Sleazy brings out the bust of Anton Reemcob and blows it apart with his shotgun and GWAR tear down the paper walls and start into Black & Huge. After, Sleazy comes out and says that they have sponsored a contest and the winner is... Melvin Fleebish! Of course Sexecutioner shows him what he's won by chopping off his head as they go into World O Filth, but it abruptly cuts off as he starts to spray the crowd with his jugular juices. Next Sexy brings out the dead Goat and Oderus talks about raping it but says that he's done that too many times and wants something new, so then they bring out "the leader of the local fan club, Stubble" (who is the fat body that can be seen dismembered during "Sexecutioner" in Live From Antarctica). Stubble comes swinging across the stage from a rope, and is in noticably better condition than in LFA. As the band goes into Slutman City, Stubble is dismembered, disembowled, beheaded, and ripped to pieces in typical GWAR fashion. Up next, the Redneck from Hell makes his first appearance firing his shotgun to the tune of Bone Meal/Ollie North and of course has his brain and guts pulled out, then his head ripped off. Following this is the familiar Dead Dog song and skit featuring the Bad Biker Bitch where Sexy brings Oderus Pookie for his sexual delight, but is interrupted by the Bitch. After attacking the pair with her dildo, her tits are chopped off, and Oderus butt bangs her and spews all over the crowd. The next scene was something I hadn't seen before. Oderus complains to Sleazy that he doesn't want to be a rock star anymore, so Sleazy tells him to watch TV and do some drugs. They had a giant television (actually it was more of a giant box with a screen shaped hole cut in it) with a guy inside waving puppets around while the band played Americanized and blew intoxicating fumes from the Crackzooka and shot each other up with the giant hypodermic needle. Bonner also sprayed the crowd with his giant weenie. An older clip of Years Without Light follows, with Oderus in the old costume w/o the face mask. The song is a little different in structure than the Scumdogs version and starts the thrash part sooner, but most of the lyrics are the same. After that Sleazy comes out again along with rock critic Anton Reemcob. Sleazy asks him what he's going to write for his review of the new album, and Anton makes a farting sound. Sleazy gets mad and says "hey art fag, suck on this!" and blows Reemcob's head off with his shotgun. Another older clip of Pure As The Arctic Snow follows, with Oderus throwing packing popcorn in the air to simulate snow, leading into Techno Song with the tag team parterns The Techno Destructo Express. Next is the old slow version of Ham On The Bone, and then World O Filth with the Toilet Summoning. Bonner has a giant zit on his shoulder, and Oderus squeezes some pus out of it into the toilet, then Bonner uses his massive member to spray some more gunk in it. They also throw in body parts and anything else they can cum up with. What surprised me is that this time, they actually summon something! As they go into Captain Crunch, a shambling shapeless mound with a giant eye stalk comes out on the stage. According to BalSac, this is one of the Fudgies, a creature from the plane of Fudge. But it quickly cuts away and goes into a version of Bone Meal/Ollie North where they do the Toilet Summoning again, and this time a different beastie comes out, too. It's a fat green blobby thing with tentacles for arms, and it has bug eyes, a beard, and horns. And the slaves keep shoving toilet paper into it's butthole. BalSac said that this one is Log Suckoff.Then the Fudgie comes out and the two fight. From there it goes to one of the older shows again, and Oderus and Sexy proudly display the Frank Sinatra Belts of World Domination. Then it's back to the newer material, and something that was seen briefly in the MTV Week In Rock report on the 1989 New Music Seminar. (I think it's a different show, but it's hard to tell). As the play Bone Meal/Ollie North again, Techno is brought out chained to a cross, and the Scumdogs put a crown of thorns on his head, beat and torment him, then rip his arms off and bathe in his spewing fluids. I'm surprised that they didn't do this one more often, because it makes for a more spectacular ending for the Techno Destructo attack. Following that, there is an early version of Death Pod performed, with the lovely Slymenstra doing one of her death dances, then it cuts back to the old wrestling show again as Oderus and Sexy pair off against the Bad Biker Bitch and the Redneck From Hell, to the tune of Dead Dog. Guess what happens next? You got it, she gets her tits chopped off and he gets his brain ripped out again. You think these guys would learn after a while. Following this is a rousing rendition of Time For Death. While GWAR are in a drug induced stupor, the Techno Destructo Express steals the Frank Sinatra Belts away from them and chalenges them to a match at the end of the show. But before that, it goes to a newer show again and they perform Horror Of Yg. Slymenstra does her dance, but she must not have been practicing with the fire at this time. One of the curious bits is next, as Sleazy comes out to sing a proto-version of Slaughterama. The act is pretty much the same, but the music played is actually Techno Song. The hapless contestants are Melvin Fleebish, the Redneck, Biker Bitch, and the Hippie, and they finish up the song with Sleazy and Oderus singing the "Slaugherama, Slaugherama, it's a drama" part. After that, Sexecutioner comes out and sings his theme song, then it goes back to the wrestling show again. The Techno Destructo Express does their ususal bit and beats Oderus and Sexy into submission, but instead of going straight into U Ain't Shit, they gloat for a while, then say that now the audience has to listen to their Techno Pop, and some really lame music plays in the background. Before it goes on too long, Oderus and Sexy break some tables over their heads and go into U Ain't Shit. It's worth noting that Slymenstra (or the old GWAR Woman) don't appear in the oldest clips, they must not have had either at the time. A newer version of Vlad The Impaler follows, and then one of the high points of the whole tape... The giant TV on the side of the stage (mentioned before when they did Americanized) suddenly breaks open and Cardinal Syn bursts forth. He's not as fancy as the one seen on the Ragnarok tour, but still is pretty impressive for the time, standing over ten feet tall. Of course, he beats the band into submission as they play his theme song. As mentioned before, this is a completely different instrumental from Surf Of Syn. A brief clip from this song can be heard in the aforementioned New Music Seminar MTV report. I've wondered for years what that song was, and now I know. As the battle turns, the familiar chords of U Ain't Shit start, and Log Suckoff comes to GWAR's aid and defeats Syn. The GWAR Theme brings the tape towards it's end, and for encores the band performs Captain Crunch (fighting against the Cheyrnobyl Cockroach), and finished with Cool Place To Park. At the end of the tape, we see GWAR leaving the club the entered at the beginning, going back out into the street and fighting and jumping on fans in the street. Despite the poor quality, I think that this is a crucial piece in the history of GWAR, and it's a shame that Slave Pit hasn't had this one available for over eight years. |
| ToadSucker19 |
Posted: Aug 1 2010, 01:54 PM
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Quality on RAWGWAR varies. From completely sucking ass (dark video, muffled sound) to very good.
Thanks for ripping it for me, huntermc. My video converter is busted and the disc I have it on is fucked up. |
| huntermc |
Posted: Aug 6 2010, 12:36 AM
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The rip turned out okay - it's watchable at least for such an old show. Yeah, a lot of it is really dark - the average bootleg looks better than this. I was starting to separate the tracks out into separate songs, but I realized the sound was out of sync. I also did a new rip of the Shimmy Disc Video Compilation from and original tape I recently got off eBay, and I had just finished uploading it to youtube and I found the sound was off in that, too. So I'm trying again now..
And when I'm done with Rawgwar, what should I do with it? I'll put a few of the cooler clips on the BC here and also upload some of it to youtube. I could do a torrent, or I could burn it to a DVD. Should it be shared on demonoid? Or should we hold it back to bc members to use for trade bait so we can all get some more cool stuff? I'm open to any ideas! |
| Vincent |
Posted: Aug 6 2010, 01:06 PM
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![]() Bigger Than Jesus ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Bohab Posts: 3551 Member No.: 787 Joined: 11-January 07 |
If it's shit quality like you say it might not work as trade bait.
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| Captain Awesome |
Posted: Aug 7 2010, 03:04 PM
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Even if the quality is shitty, it's about the only tapes that exist from the earlier eras.
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| NJZombie |
Posted: Aug 9 2010, 04:09 PM
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Virgin ![]() Group: Bohab Posts: 2 Member No.: 3736 Joined: 31-July 10 |
I'm interested in any copy being posted via torrent or any other process although I'd certainly prefer it be in sync. Read about Rawgwar in Rip Magazine 21 years ago and it's the only one I've never been able to get a hold of!
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| huntermc |
Posted: Aug 9 2010, 05:45 PM
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Toadsucker - yeah, that's about the same quality as the one I've got. And I figured out the sound isn't out of synch on the rip, it's something that Premiere is doing when I import the footage.
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| ToadSucker19 |
Posted: Aug 12 2010, 08:24 PM
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![]() Asshole ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Bohab Posts: 481 Member No.: 3068 Joined: 16-May 08 |
I need my GWAR shows authored. That's the only way I'm giving shit away, now.
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